Snowy_River
Sep 1, 12:35 AM
it's not all that expensive considering Apple has release three OS upgrades since XP came out at least. If you add those together it is more expensive than Vista. That's how you have to look at it
This is a very hollow argument. For this to be valid, you have to only consider five year old computers. Consider any computer that is about two years old, and you have computers that, on the one hand, shipped with Windows XP and, on the other hand, shipped with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. Now, we have the release of Leopard and Vista! Mac users pay... $129! Windows users pay... $399! Which is cheaper?
Okay, maybe you'll insist on considering computers up to three years old. Now we have Macs having shipped with Mac OS X 10.3 Panther, and Windows machines having shipped with Windows XP. So, now we've reached today (or a few months from now, as the case may be), and Mac users who chose to upgrade each time will get up to Leopard for $129+$129=$258! And Windows users who want to try to keep up buy Vista for $399! But, then there are the Mac users who weren't that impressed with Tiger, so they waited for Leopard. They only pay $129!
I could go on, but I won't. Yes, you can present the argument that 4 x $129 = $516 is greater than Vista costing $399, but it is a very tenuous argument, as I've shown above. Realistically, Leopard is primarily aimed at computers that have been built within the past few years. Therefore, the cost of upgrades only hits one or at most two of the upgrade cycles, and is significantly less than the cost of Vista.
This is a very hollow argument. For this to be valid, you have to only consider five year old computers. Consider any computer that is about two years old, and you have computers that, on the one hand, shipped with Windows XP and, on the other hand, shipped with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. Now, we have the release of Leopard and Vista! Mac users pay... $129! Windows users pay... $399! Which is cheaper?
Okay, maybe you'll insist on considering computers up to three years old. Now we have Macs having shipped with Mac OS X 10.3 Panther, and Windows machines having shipped with Windows XP. So, now we've reached today (or a few months from now, as the case may be), and Mac users who chose to upgrade each time will get up to Leopard for $129+$129=$258! And Windows users who want to try to keep up buy Vista for $399! But, then there are the Mac users who weren't that impressed with Tiger, so they waited for Leopard. They only pay $129!
I could go on, but I won't. Yes, you can present the argument that 4 x $129 = $516 is greater than Vista costing $399, but it is a very tenuous argument, as I've shown above. Realistically, Leopard is primarily aimed at computers that have been built within the past few years. Therefore, the cost of upgrades only hits one or at most two of the upgrade cycles, and is significantly less than the cost of Vista.
Treq
Nov 7, 11:15 AM
Like Flash or hate Flash, the fact remains that Flash enabled web site have a major prevalence on the web. I hate the fact that I should have the most technologically available device, but don't just because Apple won't allow Flash - which they could easily allow.
Politics and a pissing contest between Apple and Adobe and I have to suffer. Jobs is just trying to push for his own web app. But there is a jailbreak Flash app. Jobs may not put customers' desires at the top of his list, but DevTeam does.
Setting aside wether or not they "could easily allow" with all their various carrier agreements and such. Flash is just a bloated buggy hog that will make the iphone run badly. Apple won't allow that. And they shouldn't.
Flash needs to be rewritten from the ground up. Optimized to work with OS X and the iPhone OS (which is a version of osx). Maybe then Apple will let it on the iPhone.
Politics and a pissing contest between Apple and Adobe and I have to suffer. Jobs is just trying to push for his own web app. But there is a jailbreak Flash app. Jobs may not put customers' desires at the top of his list, but DevTeam does.
Setting aside wether or not they "could easily allow" with all their various carrier agreements and such. Flash is just a bloated buggy hog that will make the iphone run badly. Apple won't allow that. And they shouldn't.
Flash needs to be rewritten from the ground up. Optimized to work with OS X and the iPhone OS (which is a version of osx). Maybe then Apple will let it on the iPhone.
MacRumors
Mar 28, 11:49 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/28/ipad-2-coming-to-radioshack-tomorrow/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/03/28/124305-radioshack_ipad_2.jpg
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manhattanboy
Jun 28, 04:23 PM
That looks great, and would be fine for touch-input (if it has wrist-wrests); but that's a horrible angle for a screen: you'd have to crouch over it to use it.
It's actually the screen they will use for all old people who have droopy heads...
Regardless, here's hoping that tomorrow they release an iMac refresh to cover up some of the death grip publicity of the iFailphone 4.
It's actually the screen they will use for all old people who have droopy heads...
Regardless, here's hoping that tomorrow they release an iMac refresh to cover up some of the death grip publicity of the iFailphone 4.
RHVC59
Mar 7, 11:18 PM
A shot from last night...
An intrepid group of Volunteers form our little town hiked up 3001 feet up to to the top of Deer Mountain, that overlooks our sea side town with fireworks and put on quite a show for the town. Thanks
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5505039121_b0cc4d0105_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhvc59/5505039121/lightbox/)
NIKON D80
28.0-300.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
300.0mm (35mm equivalent: 450mm)
f/10.0
5.000 sec
ISO 200
Check Flicker for more shots of Deer Mountain both in the day time and more of the Fireworks :)
An intrepid group of Volunteers form our little town hiked up 3001 feet up to to the top of Deer Mountain, that overlooks our sea side town with fireworks and put on quite a show for the town. Thanks
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5056/5505039121_b0cc4d0105_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhvc59/5505039121/lightbox/)
NIKON D80
28.0-300.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
300.0mm (35mm equivalent: 450mm)
f/10.0
5.000 sec
ISO 200
Check Flicker for more shots of Deer Mountain both in the day time and more of the Fireworks :)
Prom1
Nov 11, 10:21 PM
I see this as an excuse for the developer to explore new horizons. Was it not the same "middleman process" when he first submitted the FaceBook app?? I'm sure it was; however maybe the recent changes are slowing final development to fruition & consumption.
Still the web still has a LONG way to go to become so called "best mobile app" because not all data should be sourced in real time or pulled/pushed when needed by the user. Many places where wireless provider data is STILL not truely unlimited & thus restricted (Canadian providers ALL the incumbents STILL charge & cap a specific ceiling of 1-2GB monthly with few % on the offered/pulled 6gb of data; along with tethering restrictions/allowances and so called "fair use" policies).
There are many applications that serve just as well or better with a single burst of data for 1 time & initial requests. Only specific changes in data which wold affect users are required and incremental.
Some applications, like stock data for trading applications, world news events/reports - need and require a continuous stream of data. Issue is web based cloud "apps" (more like interfaces) change not only the data presented to the end user, but many times augmenting the GUI layout which most of the times is not needed; this lacks in efficient data streaming, and more data bucket usuage & costs to the end user.
There is a HUGE reason why WML/WAP1.1 failed, and why WAP2.0 is in a static state of developmental evolution and suits feature phones, and not smartphones.
Yes I'm aware of HTML5 and what GoogleWave presents - but it proves that the GUI layout consistently changes due to new data streams and provides great event notifications - but its NOT suited for a battery packing handheld smartphone/feature phone device. To put it simply developers that code specifically to the web think of Desktops/Laptops (and recently MIDS) First & Foremost; mobile is thought up of only after mass consumption of their work is taken noticed. THAT is the issue.
Smartphones are THE MOST PERSONAL and trusted computing platform and thus heavily guarded by the end user. As such there NEEDS to be some kind of regulation, to what extent can be argued and never resolved for the next 10yrs - but it cannot nor should NOT be left to the end user!
At one point in the future, a smartphones evolution as a mobile device to a lifestyle personal companion should be as easy, as free, and as care free to use as our voices, words and hands (in any language, context & intent) and evolve as such. The only limitations are common sense, experience, and specific laws & moral aptitude for their uses.
Wow, that is thinking different. I think I'm high!!
:apple:
Still the web still has a LONG way to go to become so called "best mobile app" because not all data should be sourced in real time or pulled/pushed when needed by the user. Many places where wireless provider data is STILL not truely unlimited & thus restricted (Canadian providers ALL the incumbents STILL charge & cap a specific ceiling of 1-2GB monthly with few % on the offered/pulled 6gb of data; along with tethering restrictions/allowances and so called "fair use" policies).
There are many applications that serve just as well or better with a single burst of data for 1 time & initial requests. Only specific changes in data which wold affect users are required and incremental.
Some applications, like stock data for trading applications, world news events/reports - need and require a continuous stream of data. Issue is web based cloud "apps" (more like interfaces) change not only the data presented to the end user, but many times augmenting the GUI layout which most of the times is not needed; this lacks in efficient data streaming, and more data bucket usuage & costs to the end user.
There is a HUGE reason why WML/WAP1.1 failed, and why WAP2.0 is in a static state of developmental evolution and suits feature phones, and not smartphones.
Yes I'm aware of HTML5 and what GoogleWave presents - but it proves that the GUI layout consistently changes due to new data streams and provides great event notifications - but its NOT suited for a battery packing handheld smartphone/feature phone device. To put it simply developers that code specifically to the web think of Desktops/Laptops (and recently MIDS) First & Foremost; mobile is thought up of only after mass consumption of their work is taken noticed. THAT is the issue.
Smartphones are THE MOST PERSONAL and trusted computing platform and thus heavily guarded by the end user. As such there NEEDS to be some kind of regulation, to what extent can be argued and never resolved for the next 10yrs - but it cannot nor should NOT be left to the end user!
At one point in the future, a smartphones evolution as a mobile device to a lifestyle personal companion should be as easy, as free, and as care free to use as our voices, words and hands (in any language, context & intent) and evolve as such. The only limitations are common sense, experience, and specific laws & moral aptitude for their uses.
Wow, that is thinking different. I think I'm high!!
:apple:
JackAxe
Apr 11, 04:34 AM
actually no, its 35$ per month if u subscribe to a 1 year commitment and 49$ per month if u extens it each month ... what a ripoff
LOL. :D I'm embarrassed for not reading their terms before I posted, because right after I submitted, I checked them out. :o
It's cheaper to buy. I only see this being good, if one needs to higher more temps than they have available licenses for a short period of time. But as is, I upgrade my various Adobe products on average every 2 or 3 years -- I used AfterEffects 6.5 up until CS4 -- so the subscription pricing is a joke.
LOL. :D I'm embarrassed for not reading their terms before I posted, because right after I submitted, I checked them out. :o
It's cheaper to buy. I only see this being good, if one needs to higher more temps than they have available licenses for a short period of time. But as is, I upgrade my various Adobe products on average every 2 or 3 years -- I used AfterEffects 6.5 up until CS4 -- so the subscription pricing is a joke.
doberman211
Mar 19, 04:52 PM
Interesting how things change, the forum following the iPhone launch couldn't have been any more different;
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=267804
Amazing how things change over time, from Apple should do gadgets and just focus on computers, to this in less than six years!
Who cares old man, i'm not looking for threads from 6 years ago. this is the evolution of tech. you dont need to keep specifying that things have been talked about in the past. start a recollections thread or something. you;re the what? fifth whos said that? It's annoying. The past is history.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=267804
Amazing how things change over time, from Apple should do gadgets and just focus on computers, to this in less than six years!
Who cares old man, i'm not looking for threads from 6 years ago. this is the evolution of tech. you dont need to keep specifying that things have been talked about in the past. start a recollections thread or something. you;re the what? fifth whos said that? It's annoying. The past is history.
Sydde
Apr 11, 08:02 PM
As I said above, free will is a foundational truth that can't be overlooked. God has given you the ability to reject him and you are simply exercising that choice
Sorry to seem to be excessively contrarian, but even here we have a problem. At least I do, some others will probably disagree with me. Of course in the first place, the "god has given you" assertion is irksome. You are apparently not even able to say "you have free will", it has to come from your god person. I mean, I understand where you are coming from, you have to realize that constantly attributing everything to your god person actually tends to detract from what you are saying.
But more importantly, I think the very concept of free will is grossly overstated. "Free will" is actually a very trivial component of human behavior, the lion's share consists of responding to events, which may be of immediate or deferred effect or consequence. Most of what we do involves following well-established patterns, sometimes adjusting a little for a particular situation.
Now I am aware that this kind of Skinnerian behaviorism is a bit extreme for most people to deal with, but my own personal observations (as I go through life and deal with people and animals) have yet to find fault with it. The reality is that I did not choose to believe what I do just as I am not at liberty to just adopt a different belief set. Perhaps a head trauma could turn me into a Baptist or Kufi, but even then, the choice would not be mine. If your god did make us, this is how it did, and the vaporous notion of free will upon which your religion is based is what you want, not so much how things truly are.
Sorry to seem to be excessively contrarian, but even here we have a problem. At least I do, some others will probably disagree with me. Of course in the first place, the "god has given you" assertion is irksome. You are apparently not even able to say "you have free will", it has to come from your god person. I mean, I understand where you are coming from, you have to realize that constantly attributing everything to your god person actually tends to detract from what you are saying.
But more importantly, I think the very concept of free will is grossly overstated. "Free will" is actually a very trivial component of human behavior, the lion's share consists of responding to events, which may be of immediate or deferred effect or consequence. Most of what we do involves following well-established patterns, sometimes adjusting a little for a particular situation.
Now I am aware that this kind of Skinnerian behaviorism is a bit extreme for most people to deal with, but my own personal observations (as I go through life and deal with people and animals) have yet to find fault with it. The reality is that I did not choose to believe what I do just as I am not at liberty to just adopt a different belief set. Perhaps a head trauma could turn me into a Baptist or Kufi, but even then, the choice would not be mine. If your god did make us, this is how it did, and the vaporous notion of free will upon which your religion is based is what you want, not so much how things truly are.
ChrisTX
Apr 17, 01:28 PM
My local Best Buy as of 11:15 this morning(The Woodlands, Texas) did not have any iPad 2's available. I failed to ask them if they were already sold out for the day or if they just didn't have them in stock. Regardless, no luck there.
Rocketman
Sep 22, 01:04 PM
I posted in another post on this website this claim some time ago. Wal-Mart uses loss-leading priced CD sales to draw people into the store. BTW that is directly harmful to other brick and morter stores as well as medium priced online retailers. Are they apologizing for that? Considering that iTunes has been in business for YEARS now, have they somehow lost this "increased consumer traffic benefit" as a result of Apple's (#5 in market) success?
Do they see someting we do not see as to Apple's current or future domination of the movie business?
It seems that since Wal-Mart tends to service the very lowest income class in our culture and many of these folks tend to not have computers, and to the extent they do, tend to not have broadband either, it seems there is a degree of mutual exclusivity of markets.
Therefore it seems Wal-Mart is less concerned about the sales themselves as the "benefits" they receive by the physical customer traffic they get from some people going to Wal-Mart to buy intentionally underpriced product so they will shop for other things while there.
BTW Wal-Mart themselves state this, so it is not speculation.
Rocketman
See my really little violin?
Do they see someting we do not see as to Apple's current or future domination of the movie business?
It seems that since Wal-Mart tends to service the very lowest income class in our culture and many of these folks tend to not have computers, and to the extent they do, tend to not have broadband either, it seems there is a degree of mutual exclusivity of markets.
Therefore it seems Wal-Mart is less concerned about the sales themselves as the "benefits" they receive by the physical customer traffic they get from some people going to Wal-Mart to buy intentionally underpriced product so they will shop for other things while there.
BTW Wal-Mart themselves state this, so it is not speculation.
Rocketman
See my really little violin?
joeboy_45101
Aug 3, 04:47 PM
Hmmm...... If you look closely at the banner photo you'll see the "64-bit" logo is awfully close to the photo of the iMac. The current Intel iMacs are not 64-bit since the Core Duo (1) processers are 32-bit. Could this mean that the iMacs are going to get the new Core Duo 2 processers, which just happen to be 64-bit.
Same goes for the MacBook Pros
Same goes for the MacBook Pros
takao
Apr 4, 12:53 PM
as an agnostic, which was raised catholic, i'm not seeing the point of this .. apart of making money
i suspect it makes as much sense as the new catholic YOUCAT. what a fantastic way to short Youth Catechism :rolleyes:
i suspect it makes as much sense as the new catholic YOUCAT. what a fantastic way to short Youth Catechism :rolleyes:
Compile 'em all
Nov 12, 05:00 PM
Ironic that FACEBOOK is one of websites that most often CRASHED Safari 4.0.3 OFTEN!
I'm not sure who's to blame for that, Apple or Facebook, but since many other websites don't crash Safari 4.0.3, doesn't this seem like the little stubborn child refusing to do his homework properly?
Btw, I've yet to extensively test Safari 4.0.4 on Facebook, but my past experience was that Facebook has always been buggy on Macs, and every new update to the site always seems to cause a Mac-specific problem.
I have never EVER had Facebook crash Safari. And I use Facebook heavily.
Sounds something is wrong with your setup or you just enjoy spreading FUD.
I'm not sure who's to blame for that, Apple or Facebook, but since many other websites don't crash Safari 4.0.3, doesn't this seem like the little stubborn child refusing to do his homework properly?
Btw, I've yet to extensively test Safari 4.0.4 on Facebook, but my past experience was that Facebook has always been buggy on Macs, and every new update to the site always seems to cause a Mac-specific problem.
I have never EVER had Facebook crash Safari. And I use Facebook heavily.
Sounds something is wrong with your setup or you just enjoy spreading FUD.
Keebler
Jul 23, 09:45 AM
If it's going to have a huge screen why not make it have a satellite based navigation system too. That would be handy...
As for the reader, sounds cool to me! :)
this is a great point and something that would totally enhance the ipod line.
here's why:
1. points of reference - my garmn gps has PORs for anywhere i go...picture it: gas stations, restaurants, historical landmarks etc.. i believe it even has cinemas too. think of walking around as a tourist after dloading the map to a new city and know exactly where you are going.
2. memory - maps don't take a lot of memory. my garmin only has 64 or 128 MBs...so, a few songs worth, of maps. and i have ALOT of territory on it. in fact, about 18 driving hours worth, including fully maps of major cities.
3. ipods are already integrated into vehicles and personal gps' are growing huge in popularity. combine this with an impatient society wanting everything in 1 gadget :)
of course, i'm sure the electronic side of things in terms of connecting to sats etc.. might cause issues, but it's an interesting thought at least.
As for the reader, sounds cool to me! :)
this is a great point and something that would totally enhance the ipod line.
here's why:
1. points of reference - my garmn gps has PORs for anywhere i go...picture it: gas stations, restaurants, historical landmarks etc.. i believe it even has cinemas too. think of walking around as a tourist after dloading the map to a new city and know exactly where you are going.
2. memory - maps don't take a lot of memory. my garmin only has 64 or 128 MBs...so, a few songs worth, of maps. and i have ALOT of territory on it. in fact, about 18 driving hours worth, including fully maps of major cities.
3. ipods are already integrated into vehicles and personal gps' are growing huge in popularity. combine this with an impatient society wanting everything in 1 gadget :)
of course, i'm sure the electronic side of things in terms of connecting to sats etc.. might cause issues, but it's an interesting thought at least.
typecase
Sep 4, 11:52 PM
The thing that's frustrated me with Apple is the long wait for even minor product updates. The Merom update across the line should be a no brainer especially since the chip is more efficient and is easy to implement. Almost every other manufacturer announced Merom laptops already. Knowing Apple though, they'll just drag it out without mercy and only do the Merom updates in January for Macworld. In the meantime, we'll all be wondering if perhaps next week would be the right time to buy a new notebook because of some hot new rumor. Very frustrating. Now that Apple has switched to Intel, why not do chip updates without the fanfare that accompanied the minor PowerPC updates? :rolleyes:
voncheech
Jan 11, 04:16 PM
too many expectations this year. i will surely be disappointed.
they can not top last year's iphone intro...
they can not top last year's iphone intro...
OllyW
Apr 14, 06:01 PM
there is a reason why each processor in the Mac Pro alone costs a lot more than the whole $750 PC.
That's not true though is it?
That's not true though is it?
mashinhead
Sep 12, 04:59 PM
i like iTunes 7 but have 2 questions
First i bought some music off itunes which i notices is the Clean version of the album. i didn't mean to buy these its just the clean vs explicity signs are too subtle. Can i get these changed.
And second, What about the shows i already bought, can they be converted to the higher res. cos that would suck otherwise.
First i bought some music off itunes which i notices is the Clean version of the album. i didn't mean to buy these its just the clean vs explicity signs are too subtle. Can i get these changed.
And second, What about the shows i already bought, can they be converted to the higher res. cos that would suck otherwise.
louis Fashion
Mar 28, 06:37 PM
I guess if her main criteria for car choice is killing people in small cars then she has picked the right car.
I suggest a thread on vehicle selection. My new bud, iliketyla, and I are on the case. He, iliketyia, has a scooter and I have a well equipped SUV. My nano is hooked into the sound system his, I suspect, is hooked into ear buds.
So, my dream car is the Audi A8. How about you?
I suggest a thread on vehicle selection. My new bud, iliketyla, and I are on the case. He, iliketyia, has a scooter and I have a well equipped SUV. My nano is hooked into the sound system his, I suspect, is hooked into ear buds.
So, my dream car is the Audi A8. How about you?
meowtown
Mar 29, 12:58 AM
Has anyone else noticed all the shaped app icons? As far as I know, I don't think that's a feature right now... Maybe I'm wrong. But there are a lot of circles, and there's even a gear. Also they're 3D. I don't think that would mean anything, but I saw an idea once that the iPhone could know what angle you're looking at it, and make the screen look 3D accordingly... But the battery life is already not great, so I'm sure they wouldn't want to kill it with some pointless (maybe not pointless, for games) feature...?
Yeap...
Yeap...
sierra oscar
Nov 7, 02:24 AM
Apple is primarily an American company and they know that the news cycle will be heavy with Election Results. They can wait until next week and get more bang for the same buck. Europe (Australia, Asia, etc. ) will be just as happy with a Nov. 14 release as Nov. 7.
My response was more tongue in cheek - knowing full well the US-Centricity of Apple.
My response was more tongue in cheek - knowing full well the US-Centricity of Apple.
bdkennedy1
Jan 11, 05:18 PM
Nevermind
Subtle ?? That's not the current iPhone interface when in a call.
It's blaring right at you.look at that iPhone.It shows the blue area at the top.Go make a call and see how it looks.
This is a new iPhone or creative license.
Subtle ?? That's not the current iPhone interface when in a call.
It's blaring right at you.look at that iPhone.It shows the blue area at the top.Go make a call and see how it looks.
This is a new iPhone or creative license.
Case-sensitive
Nov 27, 09:45 AM
Lets hope they remaster them - the stereo effects on the original versions can be really painful on a pair of headphones.
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