gnasher729
Apr 14, 05:42 PM
That $1199 iMac has lots of other wonderful features including a screen, but if you think it is anywhere close to the performance of a i7-2600 based PC (that go for $750 from HP/Dell) then you are delusional. To get something from Apple with an equivalent processor you are looking at a $2199 iMac or a $2499 Mac Pro. Doesn't matter that in the long term the Mac could be a better value, some people can't justify that huge price difference or paying additional for features they don't need or want or cannot afford to.
Again Macs are a premium product and because of that Apple will hit a ceiling of those who can afford or justify buying their products.
I'll not take being called "delusional" to be an insult, I'll take it as involuntary humor on your side. Someone made up a wonderful term "specturbators". That's the people the $750 PC appeals to. Reality is that the iMac will get the job done, with plenty of speed, beautiful, and reliable, much better than the $750 PC. For jobs that it can't get done, sorry mate, there is a reason why each processor in the Mac Pro alone costs a lot more than the whole $750 PC.
So that's how Dell has been staying a float by selling you a 15" model every year. :p
That's why Dell sells three times as many PCs. Because people have to buy three PCs instead of one Mac :-) (But actually, they only sell slightly more than twice as many in the USA anymore. So there are actually more Mac buyers than Dell buyers).
Again Macs are a premium product and because of that Apple will hit a ceiling of those who can afford or justify buying their products.
I'll not take being called "delusional" to be an insult, I'll take it as involuntary humor on your side. Someone made up a wonderful term "specturbators". That's the people the $750 PC appeals to. Reality is that the iMac will get the job done, with plenty of speed, beautiful, and reliable, much better than the $750 PC. For jobs that it can't get done, sorry mate, there is a reason why each processor in the Mac Pro alone costs a lot more than the whole $750 PC.
So that's how Dell has been staying a float by selling you a 15" model every year. :p
That's why Dell sells three times as many PCs. Because people have to buy three PCs instead of one Mac :-) (But actually, they only sell slightly more than twice as many in the USA anymore. So there are actually more Mac buyers than Dell buyers).
Chupa Chupa
Apr 13, 03:39 PM
If it's shipping in June, even June 30, how can it not be near final form? I mean when a developer tells me s/w is "nowhere near final form" I'm thinking early beta at best. But 2.5 months from release (assume June 30) shouldn't it be in the bug testing phases and everything else locked up?
Would this run on a maxed 13" air ok?
It should except where a plugin or feature is GPU intensive and needs a real video card. That is the real Achilles heel of the 13". (I say that as an owner). Motion will run like molasses though.
Would this run on a maxed 13" air ok?
It should except where a plugin or feature is GPU intensive and needs a real video card. That is the real Achilles heel of the 13". (I say that as an owner). Motion will run like molasses though.
johnmcboston
Mar 29, 09:30 AM
I would definitely prefer a Fall iPhone 5 release if it had LTE.
As for the voice command thing - I don't really care. It's not like it takes that long to press an icon, although it might help some in the cold wiinter when I have gloves on.
I'm with you on both items. I've been psyched for iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS, but for LTE I might be convinced to wait... (Then again my 4G friend says Boston has spotty coverage at the moment...)
As for the voice thing - I don't think I've ever used it nor really want to. To those that do use it - why? Is this a feature that car drivers use a lot?
As for the voice command thing - I don't really care. It's not like it takes that long to press an icon, although it might help some in the cold wiinter when I have gloves on.
I'm with you on both items. I've been psyched for iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS, but for LTE I might be convinced to wait... (Then again my 4G friend says Boston has spotty coverage at the moment...)
As for the voice thing - I don't think I've ever used it nor really want to. To those that do use it - why? Is this a feature that car drivers use a lot?
Digital Skunk
May 4, 07:34 AM
I agree, and am fortunate to have a legit edu connection. That said, companies vary on their proof requirements. Apple, in my experience, will give you the edu price by just saying you are a student/teacher/buying it for one. I've seen them sell a Mac at that price to grandparents, etc. Pretty decent policy. MS just requires a .edu email, but then again technet is so cheap that the edu discount pales. of course, with technet using the software in a production environment is a license violation.
Right, and 9 times out of 10 the Apple Specialist will just give you the discount just so he/she can attach Mobile Me and Applecare and whatever else . . . . . oh that was just me. :D
Seriously though the requirements for that EDU discount are just as you said, nothing more than mentioning it or purchasing it through an online store. At the end of the day, you will OWN your EDU copy of a software title rather than some garbled up binary from a torrent made to look like a piece of software.
Oh ya. I have several pieces of glass that individually cost more than the body. People complain about software lock in; MS / APPLE ?Adobe et. al. have nothing on the camera manufacturers and their proprietary mounts.
True! That Nikkor 85mm 1.4 I am drooling over is going for $2200, far more than the price of my $1200 D7000 (which trumps the D2xs it replaced in so many ways).
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Right, and 9 times out of 10 the Apple Specialist will just give you the discount just so he/she can attach Mobile Me and Applecare and whatever else . . . . . oh that was just me. :D
Seriously though the requirements for that EDU discount are just as you said, nothing more than mentioning it or purchasing it through an online store. At the end of the day, you will OWN your EDU copy of a software title rather than some garbled up binary from a torrent made to look like a piece of software.
Oh ya. I have several pieces of glass that individually cost more than the body. People complain about software lock in; MS / APPLE ?Adobe et. al. have nothing on the camera manufacturers and their proprietary mounts.
True! That Nikkor 85mm 1.4 I am drooling over is going for $2200, far more than the price of my $1200 D7000 (which trumps the D2xs it replaced in so many ways).
Corbin052198
Mar 13, 11:34 AM
Honestly? I think the ENTIRE desktop line (iMac, Mac Mini, etc.) would probably get this before a laptop would get it. :(
And P.S. - Apple, your laptop line is already to expensive. :eek: Don't release a consumer product that only rich companies can buy. :(
And P.S. - Apple, your laptop line is already to expensive. :eek: Don't release a consumer product that only rich companies can buy. :(
Westside guy
Aug 2, 11:12 PM
Some of you should consider getting a smug-ectomy - this looks like a proof of concept more than anything else. Depending on exactly where the point of vulnerability is (which is not totally clear, perhaps intentionally) down the road this could have implications for built-in airport cards as well.
A couple years ago a security researcher discovered an Internet Explorer exploit that took advantage of a jpeg vulnerability. For this exploit to work, a user had to drag the image from the browser and onto their desktop, so many people blew it off - I mean, who would be stupid enough to do that? Well, after a bit more time other hackers (please don't bother "correcting" that) figured out how to take advantage of this exploit with some specially crafted script that could leverage the vulnerability without actual user interaction required.
I would agree that, at this moment, it's not a problem most Mac users need to worry about. But blowing it off completely is sophomoric at best.
A couple years ago a security researcher discovered an Internet Explorer exploit that took advantage of a jpeg vulnerability. For this exploit to work, a user had to drag the image from the browser and onto their desktop, so many people blew it off - I mean, who would be stupid enough to do that? Well, after a bit more time other hackers (please don't bother "correcting" that) figured out how to take advantage of this exploit with some specially crafted script that could leverage the vulnerability without actual user interaction required.
I would agree that, at this moment, it's not a problem most Mac users need to worry about. But blowing it off completely is sophomoric at best.
Secruoser
Mar 29, 08:29 PM
I hope Apple adds translation and Wolfram Alpha to the Siri thing. I'd love to get an answer without typing when I say "Translate in French: Where are you studying now?" or "Solve 1.52 times 8.38?"
Oh and they should offer narration of any part on websites in Safari or texts in Facebook/Twitter...
Oh and they should offer narration of any part on websites in Safari or texts in Facebook/Twitter...
madina
Jun 29, 07:11 PM
I'm guessing the screen will be tilt-able?
As an illustrator I would expect a stylus for more precision work including drawing.
It will be a thousand times more powerful than an iPad running full OSX and run all the applications required for developing software that runs on the consumer only iPad.
Not sure why so many people are against it.
My only other requirement is a windscreen wiper to clean my grubby finger marks.:D
As an illustrator I would expect a stylus for more precision work including drawing.
It will be a thousand times more powerful than an iPad running full OSX and run all the applications required for developing software that runs on the consumer only iPad.
Not sure why so many people are against it.
My only other requirement is a windscreen wiper to clean my grubby finger marks.:D
Ronlap
Apr 17, 04:41 PM
My Best Buy ad in the heart of the silicon valley leads with Dynex flat panels and there is absolutely no mention of iPad anywhere in the circular.
Ish
Mar 1, 12:35 PM
^ ^
VR, beautiful clear colours. Are you using a polarising filter?
VR, beautiful clear colours. Are you using a polarising filter?
MovieCutter
Sep 12, 04:46 PM
nope, i called the store, and they will not do the new nano's with the school discount, but aparently they will do the new videos :confused:
seems kinda sly to unload the old nanos on poor students.
Yeah, seems sly to give away iPod nanos for free, those bastards...:rolleyes:
Get a grip.
seems kinda sly to unload the old nanos on poor students.
Yeah, seems sly to give away iPod nanos for free, those bastards...:rolleyes:
Get a grip.
macUser2007
Nov 4, 06:31 PM
That's like saying that Microsoft should make windows work better with iTunes... kinda backwards.
Given that Safari is the fastest browser out there, I think Apple has done their part. Adobe needs to step up, and optimize flash for osx.
Well, if iTunes was a plugin, used by virtually 100% of the world's computer users, then Microsoft would care enough, to ensure that it ran well on its platform.
Apple has been fairly hostile to Flash, and has obviously not cared enough, to ensure that Flash performs well on its platform.
And as far as Safari being the fastest browser, you believe in ads way too much. Safari is the most inefficient of the major browsers with Flash, and it has some serious issues with Java. It takes it about three times longer to load my iGoogle page, than either Camino or Firefox.
After I did my tests with Flash (see my post above), I finally changed from having Safari as the default browser, to Firefox 3.6 Beta, on all my Macs, as well as on my HTPC (W7). Safari has a great UI, IMO, but I actually customized Firefox to look just like Safari, so I am happy.
But if my iPhones 3GS don't get Flash in the next few months, through jailbreaking or officially, I'll be looking carefully at some of the new Androids with the enormous screens soon.
I love Apple, I love their design. But I already switched to Windows for my Home Theater box, after realizing that Apple would never deliver what I wanted, and I'll switch my phones even easier, if my Internet experience is crippled, because of the lack of Flash.
Given that Safari is the fastest browser out there, I think Apple has done their part. Adobe needs to step up, and optimize flash for osx.
Well, if iTunes was a plugin, used by virtually 100% of the world's computer users, then Microsoft would care enough, to ensure that it ran well on its platform.
Apple has been fairly hostile to Flash, and has obviously not cared enough, to ensure that Flash performs well on its platform.
And as far as Safari being the fastest browser, you believe in ads way too much. Safari is the most inefficient of the major browsers with Flash, and it has some serious issues with Java. It takes it about three times longer to load my iGoogle page, than either Camino or Firefox.
After I did my tests with Flash (see my post above), I finally changed from having Safari as the default browser, to Firefox 3.6 Beta, on all my Macs, as well as on my HTPC (W7). Safari has a great UI, IMO, but I actually customized Firefox to look just like Safari, so I am happy.
But if my iPhones 3GS don't get Flash in the next few months, through jailbreaking or officially, I'll be looking carefully at some of the new Androids with the enormous screens soon.
I love Apple, I love their design. But I already switched to Windows for my Home Theater box, after realizing that Apple would never deliver what I wanted, and I'll switch my phones even easier, if my Internet experience is crippled, because of the lack of Flash.
nplima
Aug 30, 05:15 AM
Edition Regular Price Additional License Upgrade Price Additional License
Ultimate $399.00 $359.00 $259.00 $233.00
Business $299.00 $269.00 $199.95 $179.00
Home Premium $239.00 $215.00 $159.00 $143.00
Home Basic $199.00 $179.00 $99.95 $89.95
Anyone know the UK pricing?
well, duh... replace the US$ with �
isn't that the way it's usually done ? ;)
Way back on this thread ZoomZoomZoom said:
Skip Vista and you'll probably be a decade behind at some point.
And this would be the single point that consumers should think about when upgrading Windows versions: exactly what is Vista adding to XP?
From what I can see there's the promise of security that MS has been renewing ever since 1995, there's the Aero theme and there's DRM.
As for the new look on MS Windows, I can't see it as a reason to upgrade. Right now I have a Ubuntu box configured with XGL-Compiz, all the transparency bits, windows wobbling and all that... on a Celeron with a GeForce MX440 card. My Powerbook has nice windows and the Expos� effects run smoothly on its hardware from 2003 thank you very much.
Regarding DRM, I'll pass. Really. I'm not is the US, so why should I be getting an OS that has been built according to the requirements of the MPAA/RIAA? I'd rather get Ubuntu Linux and then add media plugins that suit what I need to do, and choose them correctly under the context of portuguese law.
So, I ask again, what am I geeting with a new box of Windows? the same security improvements MS has been promising for the last 10 years, or security features sold as extras by MS to try and get some revenue from fixing the problems their own software design couldn't prevent in the first place?
Ultimate $399.00 $359.00 $259.00 $233.00
Business $299.00 $269.00 $199.95 $179.00
Home Premium $239.00 $215.00 $159.00 $143.00
Home Basic $199.00 $179.00 $99.95 $89.95
Anyone know the UK pricing?
well, duh... replace the US$ with �
isn't that the way it's usually done ? ;)
Way back on this thread ZoomZoomZoom said:
Skip Vista and you'll probably be a decade behind at some point.
And this would be the single point that consumers should think about when upgrading Windows versions: exactly what is Vista adding to XP?
From what I can see there's the promise of security that MS has been renewing ever since 1995, there's the Aero theme and there's DRM.
As for the new look on MS Windows, I can't see it as a reason to upgrade. Right now I have a Ubuntu box configured with XGL-Compiz, all the transparency bits, windows wobbling and all that... on a Celeron with a GeForce MX440 card. My Powerbook has nice windows and the Expos� effects run smoothly on its hardware from 2003 thank you very much.
Regarding DRM, I'll pass. Really. I'm not is the US, so why should I be getting an OS that has been built according to the requirements of the MPAA/RIAA? I'd rather get Ubuntu Linux and then add media plugins that suit what I need to do, and choose them correctly under the context of portuguese law.
So, I ask again, what am I geeting with a new box of Windows? the same security improvements MS has been promising for the last 10 years, or security features sold as extras by MS to try and get some revenue from fixing the problems their own software design couldn't prevent in the first place?
mrochester
Apr 17, 02:01 AM
How. Many. Full. Stops. Do. They. Want. To. Cram. Into. One. Advert? Have they ever heard of the comma? It's this really useful little squiggle that can be used to separate items in a list.
dtich
Nov 12, 07:03 PM
I do think that Apple needs to work harder on App approval, and I believe the best thing for them to do is have a gold certification level for developers who are trusted. Those developers would be allowed to make as many changes to their applications as they wanted without any interference or approval from apple.
that seems like a very good idea, and i assume/hope/surprised if they're not working on something in that area.
that seems like a very good idea, and i assume/hope/surprised if they're not working on something in that area.
GovtLawyer
Dec 5, 10:11 AM
[According to the report, "Abbey Road" was the best-selling album in the United States, while "Here Comes The Sun" topped the song charts.
It should be interesting to note that when the general public thinks of The Beatles, they think of Lennon/McCartney songs. "Here Comes the Sun" which appears to be the best selling Beatles song on iTunes, was written by George Harrison.
It should be interesting to note that when the general public thinks of The Beatles, they think of Lennon/McCartney songs. "Here Comes the Sun" which appears to be the best selling Beatles song on iTunes, was written by George Harrison.
SiliconAddict
Sep 12, 03:24 PM
Again as I stated before... Apple is really starting to dabble in the 3D interface. The album art is a good example of this. Granted its a rip off of someone else's idea...No idea of the name of the app but I was playing around with it a few months back that did exactly this. *shrugs* Whatever. It makes me wonder if there is any serious GUI updates for 10.5 that we have yet to see.
hondaboy945
Sep 22, 02:11 PM
Yeah, all this "Boycott Wal-Mart" talk rocks. I work for Target, so come on in guys and gals!
I totally agree. Target is sooo much better than WM. I would rather pay the extra .50 or $1 more to go to Target. Cleaner stores, nicer people, and they don't have that funny smell that WM has. And they don't want to price everyone out of business, except maybe WM. That would be great.
I totally agree. Target is sooo much better than WM. I would rather pay the extra .50 or $1 more to go to Target. Cleaner stores, nicer people, and they don't have that funny smell that WM has. And they don't want to price everyone out of business, except maybe WM. That would be great.
faroZ06
May 4, 11:10 PM
What? Blu Ray failed? When?:rolleyes:
Are you kidding? Netflix destroyed it with streaming. Disney and Sony aren't even advertising for it anymore. The Blu Ray players are being sold dirt cheap at clearance sales because it's a dying/dead format. I haven't heard a word about it on TV ads to further seal the deal.
And I never liked it anyway, the 25 GB disc wasn't filled all the way because of the stupidly lossy compression, and it was expensive. We unplugged our Blu Ray player and replaced it with a TiVo box with Netflix streaming, which happens to be a lot cheaper than Blu Ray and much easier.
And Apple never used it :)
Are you kidding? Netflix destroyed it with streaming. Disney and Sony aren't even advertising for it anymore. The Blu Ray players are being sold dirt cheap at clearance sales because it's a dying/dead format. I haven't heard a word about it on TV ads to further seal the deal.
And I never liked it anyway, the 25 GB disc wasn't filled all the way because of the stupidly lossy compression, and it was expensive. We unplugged our Blu Ray player and replaced it with a TiVo box with Netflix streaming, which happens to be a lot cheaper than Blu Ray and much easier.
And Apple never used it :)
Chundles
Sep 4, 12:15 PM
man i can't wait until the 12th
So far I have yet to see an official confirmation from a reputable (read "not-rumour") web site.
The "confirmations" flying around all seem to be the rumour sites referencing each other.
Until I see iLounge or MacWorld get an invitation I won't be getting my hopes up for an secret-Apple-ninja-attack event.
So far I have yet to see an official confirmation from a reputable (read "not-rumour") web site.
The "confirmations" flying around all seem to be the rumour sites referencing each other.
Until I see iLounge or MacWorld get an invitation I won't be getting my hopes up for an secret-Apple-ninja-attack event.
grumps
Nov 7, 01:29 PM
They're going to broaden the span of the MB.
The top end spec will be increased probably with core 2 duo, more RAM and disk, bringing it closer to low end MBP but maintaining the price point. Probably keeping it black.
The bottom end will stay the same with core duo at a lower price.
Why this?
Well a reseller telles me 'what people want' is a 13 inch MBP and this would create something similar but far enough away to justify the price difference.
The MB has not really filled the niche of the 12 inch Powerbook yet.
And the delay for delivery for top end black MBs has gone up but not for the bottom end (I know this might just be a supply thing) in Australia.
The top end spec will be increased probably with core 2 duo, more RAM and disk, bringing it closer to low end MBP but maintaining the price point. Probably keeping it black.
The bottom end will stay the same with core duo at a lower price.
Why this?
Well a reseller telles me 'what people want' is a 13 inch MBP and this would create something similar but far enough away to justify the price difference.
The MB has not really filled the niche of the 12 inch Powerbook yet.
And the delay for delivery for top end black MBs has gone up but not for the bottom end (I know this might just be a supply thing) in Australia.
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Lau
Sep 13, 07:42 AM
While I'm happy that this is probably the reason for the increased battery life, I'm concerned about the life span of the screen. How much of a limited span are we talking about?
Edit: according to wikipedia, 5,000 hrs. For comparison, a typical LCD has a life of 50,000 hrs (30,000 hrs for lamp).
That's an interesting point. I just worked out that if it does last 5000 hours, and you use it for 3 hours a day (which, let's face it, is massively over the time that the screen would be lit for) it would last about 4 and a half years. Or does it mean 5000 hours with the screen being used and not lit?
Edit: according to wikipedia, 5,000 hrs. For comparison, a typical LCD has a life of 50,000 hrs (30,000 hrs for lamp).
That's an interesting point. I just worked out that if it does last 5000 hours, and you use it for 3 hours a day (which, let's face it, is massively over the time that the screen would be lit for) it would last about 4 and a half years. Or does it mean 5000 hours with the screen being used and not lit?
RebootD
Apr 11, 12:29 PM
Biggest advantage I can see would be adding and removing seats on a month-by-month basis based on business needs. For example, imagine your business suddenly picks up for a couple of months, and need an extra license for a contractor or other temporary worker you bring on.
You're right, though, in that if you miscalculate, you may end up paying more for a temporary license than you would for a permanent one.
This. For agencies who hire temporary designers paying $129 for a month's liscense is a great idea. (Rather than have to purchase a full copy at retail).
I'm not getting it because I'm not paying $549 to go from CS5 MC to 5.5. It's a cash grab and I can live without the new features. I always wait until the next FULL update.
You're right, though, in that if you miscalculate, you may end up paying more for a temporary license than you would for a permanent one.
This. For agencies who hire temporary designers paying $129 for a month's liscense is a great idea. (Rather than have to purchase a full copy at retail).
I'm not getting it because I'm not paying $549 to go from CS5 MC to 5.5. It's a cash grab and I can live without the new features. I always wait until the next FULL update.
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